Thursday, September 20, 2007

Biblical Names of God

Everlasting Father - Isaiah 9:6

Isa 9:6 (9:5) For a child is born to us, a son is given to us; dominion will rest on his shoulders, and he will be given the name Pele-Yo`etz El Gibbor Avi-`Ad Sar-Shalom [Wonder of a Counselor, Mighty God, Father of Eternity, Prince of Peace], (CJB)

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. (KJV)
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2 comments:

Ronald Day said...

"Everlasting Father" in Isaiah 9:6 is not a name of Yahweh God, but rather part of the name designated for the Son of Yahweh. The entire "name" here is given by Yahweh of Hosts, the only true God. -- Isaiah 9:7; Jeremiah 10:10; John 17:1,5.

I don't know what the rendering "Father of Eternity" could mean. It would seem to indicate that Jesus is someway the one who brought eternity into being. One would have to define eternity and also how Jesus would be the Father, the life-giver, of Eternity. If it is thought to mean that Jesus is the source of eternity, and Jesus himself is eternal (which some have defined existing outside of time), then it would mean that eternity did not exist, and therefore Jesus himself did not exist, until Jesus, who would be non-existent without eternity, brought eternity into being so that Jesus could exist in this alledged idea of eternity, and therefore Jesus, being eternal, brought eternity into being.

Then, again, the name to be given in Isaiah 9:6 does not apply until sometime after Jesus is given to Israel (Matthew 1:23; Luke 1:32), after he is born to Israel as a son to whom is to be given the dominion (Isaiah 9:7; Luke 1:32; Ephesians 1:15-21), which dominion Daniel says is also given to the saints, who become joint-heirs with Jesus. -- Daniel 7:27; Romans 8:17; 1 Corinthians 6:2.

Actually, Jesus became the eternal father when he became the "life-giving spirit" as the last Adam. -- 1 Corinthians 15:45.

The entire name of Isaiah 9:6 can be rendered many different ways, with the recognition that EL GIBBOR does not necessarily mean "Mighty God" as that term is usually used in English. The same phrase (in plural form) appears in Ezekiel 32:21, yet I don't know of any translation that renders the phrase there as Mighty God, or Mighty Gods. Most translations render the phrase in Ezekiel 32:21 as something like "the strong among the mighty".

More concerning Isaiah 9:6 can be found at:
http://godandson.reslight.net/isaiah9-6.html

Christian love,
Ronald

editor said...

Thank you, Ronald. Simply rendered, El Olam is Everlasting God. God is Father, Son and Holy Ghost---three in One.